Why investors are thinking about human capital

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Having spent twenty years at the forefront of human capital reporting and recognising its ten years since we released our human capital reporting standards, I note the returning cycle of comment and ...


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The investment community is waking up to the value people bring to business, but HCM reporting remains a challenge

Chicken and egg. Catch-22. An impasse. Pretty opaque. A mess. These are just some of the terms used by experts to describe to me the state of human capital reporting and the investment community’s understanding of the value of people.

But could the tide be turning? Signs suggest so, and that change is rapidly gaining pace as various interested parties across the worlds of investment management, HR, and management more generally attempt to find an answer to the question that’s been puzzling business for decades: how can you quantify the value of people to future organisational performance?

“Investors are interested in the more nebulous aspects of human capital management (HCM) because it’s material to the business, the share price, and their investment,” says Andrew Ninian, director of corporate governance and engagement at The Investment Association. “We want to show there’s value in good HCM and that investors should be aware of the issue. The starting point is good reporting. Have that and investors can take a view on if HCM is adding value and leading to a better performing company.”

The Investment Association’s “embryonic” working group on human capital reporting is just one example of an initiative here. Others include 2015 reports from the CIPD (Human capital reporting: Investing for sustainable growth) and the NAPF (Where is the workforce in corporate reporting?); Dave Ulrich’s forthcoming book on a leadership capital index to help investors make decisions based on organisational leadership capability (see p30 for exclusive insights from Ulrich); the continuing ‘integrated reporting’ movement; an attempt to rank the largest listed companies on the London Stock Exchange by how well they manage human capital by the Maturity Institute; and a recent report by culture consultancy Walking the Talk and investment consultancy Stamford Associates that found 94% of investors say culture plays an “important” part in their decisions.

For Paul Kearns, chair of the Maturity Institute, the relevance of human capital to investment management is a no-brainer. “It may be much less tangible, but it is much more valuable in the whole equation,” he points out. “The intangibles have always been interesting, but people have not been sure what to do with them. The financial crisis has shown that if we don’t take this seriously we will be stuck in the same place. Investors have seen plenty of evidence of what underlying damage has been caused by poor people governance. They need lower risk and better returns – it’s a simple equation. HCM is now acknowledged as a huge opportunity waiting to be tapped.”

The right time

Across the board there is a sense that this concept – the bringing together of investors and HR – is very much an idea whose time has finally come; thrown into sharp relief, as Kearns alludes to, by the shock waves of the banking crisis and the desire by many to codify a more responsible and sustainable way of running businesses.

In his book Ulrich writes: “Now is the time [to offer] investors a much more comprehensive way of assessing leadership as part of their firm valuation process.” And in a recent Harvard Business Review essay, David Creeland and John Boudreau conclude: “There is a slow and steady movement toward giving investors more precise information about things that have traditionally been reported only vaguely or not at all”, to include human capital management.

Intangibles such as people are also becoming increasingly important to UK plc. Research by innovation charity Nesta estimates the value of intangible assets grew from £50.2 billion to £137.5 billion between 1990 and 2011, rising since the recession where the value of tangible assets has fallen. Ninian adds that there’s a “recognition” among certain investors that “we may be undervaluing those companies who are doing HCM well”. “There’s an opportunity there,” he adds. “If we recognise that we will get more value from those companies.”

Will Pomroy, the NAPF’s policy lead on corporate governance and stewardship says the drive for increased awareness on human capital reporting came from NAPF members “engaging with the likes of Sports Direct”, and “an increasing frustration” as the media seized on zero-hours contracts. “It seemed perverse that as an investor you had no way of knowing that was the business model being used,” he explains. “The strategic report isn’t shining a light on business models as much as investors might want. Information about how companies use their workforces is completely missing.”

Increasing transparency is another push factor. “The world has become more transparent, faster, and more critical of business, so the alignment of investor relations and HR has to be closer than it’s ever been,” believes Alex Gordon-Shute, partner at Ithaca Partners, an executive search firm that specialises in corporate affairs, investor relations and HR. “Your investors see what your employees see and your employees sees what your investors see. The moment there is a disjoint the company is in real trouble. You lose trust on both sides, which means losing productivity and shareholder value.”

Push versus pull

That there is an appetite and need for better HCM information in corporate reporting is pretty clear. The problem is, says Neil Stevenson, managing director, global implementation at the International Integrated Reporting Council (IIRC), that the investor and business communities have reached “a bit of an impasse”. “There’s this ‘chicken and egg’ thing – this constant refrain that investors don’t engage with the information because it’s not good enough, and companies saying: ‘Why should we produce this information when investors never ask for it?’”

So who should jump first? In Stevenson’s opinion the pull should come from businesses. “Companies own the resources, it’s their value creation, their business prospects, so why don’t they start?” he asks. “Then we can put pressure on investors to use that information. But we can’t put pressure on investors to take more of an interest in information that isn’t provided to them. We need to break that cycle. We will need to educate analysts and investors about the things that are important.”

However, there’s also a view that investors need to be the ones providing the pull – while many HR professionals know instinctively that investment in good people management leads to sustainable success, having investors asking questions about it would serve to push it up the senior leadership agenda. Yes shareholder value alone can seem like a pretty blunt instrument, but expanding the corporate governance agenda to genuinely include HCM can only serve to improve matters for all stakeholders. “If investors start asking the questions it will put pressure on CEOs to perform better, then CEOs will turn to HR,” believes Kearns. “Once we have the investor community bought into the idea that human capital is not that intangible and is important then the chain reaction will start.”

An anonymous source working in private equity is frustrated that the majority of investors are missing a trick when it comes to even considering this area, telling HR magazine: “The investment community overly emphasises certain routes to value and doesn’t place enough emphasis on [HCM]. [Investors and analysts] should be demanding more information on this. If your job is to understand what the true underlying performance of a company is and what the lead indicators are of future performance, then to not be asking about this is remiss.”

John Dawson, investor relations director at Rolls Royce and formerly National Grid, adds that “unless investors are supportive, managers won’t change”. He uses Cadbury’s as an example of how important investor support is: “Cadbury’s placed a huge amount on its culture and as a result did not perform as highly as some of its ‘black and white’ peers, and was taken over. The great and good talk about the importance of behaviours and values, but if investors aren’t supportive it leaves companies vulnerable to takeovers.”

Could SRI go mainstream?

Unsurprisingly the investor groups showing the most interest in HCM reporting are those on the responsible side of investment, often termed ESG (environmental, social, governance) or SRI (socially responsible investing). But the investors working in this space that HR magazine spoke to were confident in their approach becoming the rule rather than the exception.

“ESG is going mainstream,” believes Leon Kamhi, head of responsibility at Hermes Investment Management. “It’s increasingly a theme in mainstream funds, not specialist ones. It’s where the market is going. Asset managers are clamouring for fund managers to act responsibly on their behalf.” But, he acknowledges: “Some are talking the talk rather than walking the walk.”

Chair of the Investor Relations Society Sue Scholes says her members (IR directors) are getting “more and more questions” from investors around the topic of HCM, but she points out: “There are different groups of shareholders. Some don’t know what you do; they are trading by machine very fast. But as the [HCM] agenda moves forward we are seeing better co-ordination in these areas among the more long-term thinking institutions.”

And she adds: “You get the shareholders you deserve. The more you help them understand the value of the business, the more high quality shareholders you will get.”

Some are more sceptical. A former reward director now working in investment management, who asked not to be named, says although there is vague awareness around the value human capital can bring “there is still a long, long way to go” adding: “CEOs are surprised by being asked questions around culture and day-to-day there isn’t a huge amount of debate about the value people are adding. There’s a big tendency to focus on the numbers. I have never seen a slide on corporate culture in an investor presentation. Companies need to help investors to get it on the agenda.”

Louise Aston, director of Business in the Community’s (BITC’s) Workwell campaign, goes even further. “While responsible investors are beginning to get this, normal investors are light-years away,” she says. Interestingly while BITC was ahead of the game in this area, campaigning for public reporting of wellbeing-related information about four years ago, Aston is now taking a step back, believing organisations need to get their own houses in order before they start trying to engage investors in HCM information. “Clearly, bringing a profound shift in attitudes and behaviour will take time, [so we are] shifting our focus away from public reporting and concentrating instead on supporting companies to accelerate the pace of change internally,” she says.

From the HR director perspective, the group HRD of a FTSE-listed firm tells HR magazine he doesn’t sense investors are “mature enough” to ask for HCM metrics, but he thinks “increasingly they want to see that you have that side under control”. He adds that at a recent investor dinner every guest approached him to ask about leadership capability and succession planning. “The two main optics investors get are succession planning and making sure there’s a clear line of sight between the strategy and the organisation,” he says. “The question I often get asked is, if they spoke to someone on the frontline would they say the same [as me]?”

The HR reporting problem

All this is irrelevant unless we crack how to actually report on people issues. When it comes to judging the future value of an organisation through the lens of human capital, there are a couple of seemingly inextricably linked problems facing investors. The first is something HR and business more widely has been grappling with for years: there are no recognised comparable standards around measuring the value of people. Leading on from that comes the question: when you lack credible data can you trust the information provided by an organisation’s senior leadership team? The CIPD’s report concluded that while investors are increasingly interested in human capital measures as indicators of performance, most of their information in this area comes from personal contacts and casual conversation – hardly rigorous.

“While we know the merits and importance of HCM, trying to get consistent information to quantify it in an investment context is a lot harder,” says Iain Richards, head of responsible investment, EMEA at Columbia Threadneedle Investment. “What can or should be measured and disclosed? Will it be meaningful, consistent and comparable?”

Stephen Dando, a former HRD and trustee board member of the Engage for Success movement, adds that the HR profession hasn’t “made it easy” for investors because of a lack of standardised metrics. “People can present their set of numbers any way they like,” he says. “It’s a mess. There’s so little established benchmarking and structure around [reporting] it allows [organisations] to present data in the most favourable way. [Narrative reporting] is better than nothing, but it’s freeform reporting. You can write it the way you want to. With financials numbers are numbers – you can read them, pump them through models, analyse them. It’s not perfect but it’s more systematic, structured and logical. I’m not saying the numbers should be solely deterministic but you’ve got to start with a robust set of numbers, and then you tell your story and people can believe it or not.”

“Culture is difficult to assess when you are using data provided by the company and one-to-one meetings with management,” agrees Dawson. “Do you accept at face value what you’re being told? How do you properly assess it? Companies need to accept not everything they publish is going to be rosy, and HRDs have an important role. Just looking at [benchmarks like] Great Places to Work and employee surveys is too simplistic. There needs to be more that you can build into your measures and more holistic ways of looking at things.”

Some of this isn’t unique to HCM. Richards points out that there are also inherent issues with the financial data presented to investors by organisations, but explains that starting from a comparable base means investors are able to look deeper, something they are unable to do with human capital data. “As investors we are all too aware that people can hide behind numbers, and we do have to spend time re-engineering them,” he explains. “However, on human capital we aren’t even at a stage where we are able to contemplate doing that.”

As Dando alludes to, when there is information about people on an annual, strategic, CSR or even integrated report, it tends toward the shallow and cliché-ridden. And lumping HCM information in with the CSR report can also, perhaps inadvertently, see it labelled as ‘fluffy’ rather than strategically important. In the words of the IIRC’s Stevenson: “We have to put an end to this mantra of ‘our people are our greatest asset’; we need to find a way of describing the value that asset is bringing in a way that helps investment decisions.”

To get around the challenges of bias and inconsistent data some investors are turning to more sophisticated tactics. According to the Walking the Talk research, investors who are interested in culture use on average 5.9 different sources of information to assess it, and Dawson says he has noticed bigger investors and hedge funds seeking out third party research. “A lot of people are resorting to triangulating testimonies,” he says. “They are talking to former employees and using testimonials rather than data. It’s a pragmatic approach – expensive but it yields results.”

Looking beyond metrics

Not everything can come down to numbers and it’s not as simple as, in Richards’ words, “bringing it down to a formula like market cap divided by number of employees, which would be wrong”. “It’s about really understanding how human capital contributes to the success of the business, working out how to measure that and communicating it consistently,” says Scholes. “Some needs to be in numbers [to make] people pay attention, but numbers don’t tell the whole story.”

All the investors HR magazine spoke to agreed that a mix of quantitative and qualitative reporting was most effective. “Metrics are important for any fund manager to take this seriously,” says the NAPF’s Pomroy. “But those metrics should be company-specific and qualified with qualitative information to flesh out that story.” Much like financial data often is, in other words.

Rather than seeking to impose a strict reporting framework there’s also a desire from investors for companies to report on what really matters to them, as every business will have different strategic priorities. “With data you can end up making false comparisons,” acknowledges Tim Goodman, associate director at Hermes Fund Management. “Qualitative analysis and face-to-face meetings can differentiate between good and bad performance in a much richer way than just looking at data. Companies should be reporting on the metrics that tell a richer story.”

That acknowledgement of the value of qualitative information, although with a solid grounding in hard metrics, should be music to HR’s ears. But Susannah Clements, former deputy chief executive of the CIPD and founder of Ithaca Partners HR practice, questions if “HR people get the idea of shareholder value”.

“A lot of HR professionals have grown up feeling that shareholder value and people engagement are incompatible; they have got to realise that they are one and the same,” she says. “While some HR people have a commercial idea of business and are bought into [shareholder value], others see it as the thin end of the wedge and think people issues are above it.”

She draws a comparison between CSR and HR reporting: “How did CSR reporting come to be? HR people failed to get people issues on the agenda but CSR played a blinder and got [their] issues to be reported on every year.”

And she warns if HR doesn’t seize this opportunity to take the same ownership of people reporting, it might be taken out of its hands. “There are a series of people on the edge of HR – investor relations, legal, corporate affairs – trying to work out their place. If HR doesn’t stake out ‘people’ now, someone else will.”

Kearns believes investors are “only going to get more and more frustrated” by the lack of people-related reporting and that “the next people who are going to get it in the neck are HR directors”. According to The Maturity Institute’s analysis of top FTSE companies the average score for capability in human capital management was 51.5%. “This represents a colossal shortfall in value that is being lost by shareholders, customers, employees and society at large,” says Kearns. “This is an accountability agenda.”

It’s easy to be sceptical. Previous initiatives to quantify the value of people have failed; however it could be argued those initiatives lacked the necessary pull from communities outside of HR – a pull that evidently now exists.

But crucially, despite the interest from the investment community, this issue is about more than just providing shareholder returns. It’s about good governance and the business community at large recognising the value excellent people management and effective HR strategies bring to all stakeholders, including employees. As Dando puts it: “This is as strategic as it gets in the HR field. There is no better way of reinforcing the relevance of all things human capital.”

Comments

I do believe that the investment community is starting to wake-up to human capital. However, if you have been part of a quarterly/annual results analyst conference call, with the CEO- you would realise human capital has a very, very , very long way to go in terms of investor interest.


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Love the shiny new website! Good treatment of the topic too - there is a new pull from the investor community but we have to recognise that this is likely to include a desire to report on people in the same way we do on widgets. Standardised metrics may have a role but the difference (in people) that makes a difference (to business performance) lies in all the stuff which is best communicated through narrative reporting. I hope this side of the argument wins through. The other point I'd like to challenge is that the starting point is reporting. It's not - reporting is the finishing point. BITC are on the mark with this. Reporting is important but it's not anywhere near as important as doing effectively what we want to report upon. The issue for most businesses is still much more about having a clear understanding within their own organisation about what they're trying to do through their people. Once they have this in place, communicating the message to investors becomes much more simple too.


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Jon, I agree with your comments. My experience with companies and in particular private equity is that, for many of them, if they can't input 'it' into an Excel spreadsheet - they will struggle to understand how it impacts on value creation. The other elephant in the room is - if people are an asset, at what point do they depreciate? And, how do you calculate human depreciation. This is not just about value, it is also about depreciation.


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Thanks Katie for a stimulating article. The "investment community" has many dimensions! Venture capitalists (I generalise) definitely look carefully at leadership, but make the mistake of thinking that that is all HCM is about. Accounting firms like PWC are not as dismissive of "intangibles" as HR might suspect; when it comes to due diligence they have good checklists. Fund managers seem to look more traditionally at strategy and financial records and forecasts. The drivers of future returns are not written in the profits of the past - yet in a company with dedicated and long term executives, plus cultural continuity (a downgraded yet proven guide to likely future success) - they have a good chance. Finance has a small number of standardised accounting systems globally. And their measurement is unidimensional. When it comes to HCM, we need many dimensions and have no standardisation. I am a great proponent of metrics, but I do not think standardisation is desirable or possible. What is important is that organisations have measures, and they can talk to investors about them. Putting on the hat of an investor, what do I want to know? It's not absolute numbers, but directions, trends, comparisons, benchmarks. I know that the following will affect business success, eg, levels and retention of core/strategic skills; % of promotions fulfilled internally; engagement/ commitment of front line staff; continuity of leadership; investment in training; recruitment success rate; measures of innovation and organisational change capability. All can be measured; so long as they are credible and reliable and have "history". it does not matter if they are different from what others use. So the "investment community" need to be skilled at asking the right questions. That's what l'd like to be trying them to do. When it comes to public reporting, we went through this with Kingsmill 13 years ago. City pressures forced Gordon Brown to reject the proposals of mandatory reporting in favour of the voluntary OFR. As a student of HCM reporting in annual reports, I am amazed how few companies actually report real numbers. But when they do, it's usually the good news only. Susannah Clements claims that CSR has stolen a march on HR in reporting. I think this is naive, to be honest. CSR only reports good news, and it's good publicity. People metrics will not always be good news; metrics go up and down; and continual reporting of the same indicators will be challenging. Companies that started off with the intention of doing this consistently have given up. Let's encourage investors to ask the right questions. And HR to have the answers


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The HCM metrics and reporting was discussed by over 100 members at SHRM in 2011, but the effort was shut down by large corporate members that "did not want additional reporting requirements". It was a short-sighted tragic cover-up. For those readers looking for an easy to read and implement set of HCM reporting charts, check out Human Capital Financial Reports on Amazon. All the research has already been completed. The new aspect that needs to be considered, is the "Rise of the Freelance Worker" as part of corporate HCM reporting.


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Tim, my understanding is that the large corporate members turned SHRM's standards down because these would have increased bureaucracy without offering much in the way of value. The reason for this was precisely what I referred to in my earlier comment that the project was too focused on standards and not nearly enough on meaning. That research which has been completed was binned, the research we need into narrative reporting hasn't yet started but the CIPD and Valuing Your Talent are about to do this. Having said this, I do think the lack of conversation across the Atlantic is ridiculous - SHRM would have benefited enormously from more insight from the UK, but the CIPD's lack of attention to developments in the US is just as dumb.


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Having spent twenty years at the forefront of human capital reporting and recognising its ten years since we released our human capital reporting standards, I note the returning cycle of comment and interest from the investment community. Maybe this time will be different from a market outcome perspective? Maybe not...? Along with our various reporting models and templates, the industry already has many measurement indicators around including those from notable contributors above. However, if the expectation is that we're able to somehow extract the quantification of 'human capital contribution' from the complexity of corporate intangibles, in reporting, then we will probably be sadly disappointed. It is more likely for organisations to quantify the overall human capital management contribution (like our Management Pathfinder does), but this usually remains within the internal walls of organisation reporting rather than any external publication. Research/publications on human capital measurement has been around for over 50 years.....


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A terrific focus on the upswing of HC metrics - just switching to value from just costs is a mind shift. The reality and promise in SRI is very exciting too - Cap Gemini's Value Creation Index a few years back is a great forerunner of this article - their exposure of different drivers for different markets is a reminder as this article has reminded us that organisations are not linear nor static - apply this thinking to the value creators organisation by organisation and an even more exciting potential emerges for HC Metricians.


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Excellant


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